Omniplan integration with omnifocus

For those who might have missed this, I just thought I should point out that integration between OmniPlan and OmniFocus is one of the things I mentioned in this year’s roadmap:

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@kcase I don’t use Omniplan but if there was synergy with Omnifocus I just might - so this sort of synergy represents a cross-sell opportunity (as well as delighting some people).

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Surely what everyone wants is something that takes all your quick action and note entries from a project in omnifocus and turns it into a networked/gant charted project in omniplan. I don’t know how long it would take to create that algorithm, or how profitable it would be, (quite, I should imagine, for omnigroup,) and exponentially more in terms of time saved by the community of hundreds of thousands of dedicated users and therefore everyone their projects benefit). Hhhmm. Who could set A project like that up, I wonder? Perhaps someone should run some monte carlo simulations and see what resources it might take and what the benefit would be? From my point of view none of us can afford to not do it, or have it. The clock is always ticking, someone is always coming up behind you, and none of us are getting any younger.

I mean after all, the threads about this only go back to at least 2014. Poor Omni group - building all these wonderful tools and then finding out they’re either not good enough to get ‘er done or - presumably - they’re just not using them? either way this has been bad P.R. since 2014. I’m kind of embarrassed. For them. Still. There is one tiny mention on the 2019 roadmap. I await eagerly to see what they come up with in the next 6 months before publicly reviewing this project again. For Twitter. It could be quite shaming. Damning even. I suspect by then I will have surveyed all the alternative tools out there.

I’m curious - do you think this capability is worth $200 - $400 (cost of OP/OP Pro) to enough people to support your argument?

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No, wait, I’m curious. Are you saying the time you’d save by buying those tools for $400 wouldn’t pay them off in two weeks? Are you saying you could really afford to not buy those tools?

I’m indifferent to the idea of OmniFocus and OmniPlan integration. I don’t know how important OmniFocus <-> OmniPlan integration is in the overall scheme of things.

I’ve encountered this in a previous job. The project manager insisted we use Asana to coordinate the tasks and delegation. When I receive a task from the project manager in Asana, it might say something like:

Prepare Summer Marketing Campaign
Requirements: [list of all the results that are expected]
Due Date: [end of the week]

The project manager never cared what each team member used for their personal task manager. She just said “let’s start this week’s sprint and evaluate at the end of the week.”

I used OmniFocus. I had a teammate use Trello. Another was a Todoist user. And yet another used BuJo. Nobody cared what the other person was using for personal task management. As long as they got it done. Then they returned back to Asana and checked it off and transmitted the deliverables to the required destination.

If the supervisor is using OmniPlan, I’ll imagine that a task or assignment will be pushed to me. I have my sprint requirements and the due date. Then I create an OmniFocus project and outline the next actions my way. My teammate might create the same project differently. The project manager may not want to see all the fiddly details (my next actions in OmniFocus) unless they are a micro-manager. The weekly sprint’s requirements were already detailed (hopefully at enough detail for me to understand what needs to be done).

I have enough teammates that don’t use a Mac or OmniFocus. They’re comfortable with their own task manager. The project manager might be using OmniPlan but they wouldn’t care if each team member used OmniFocus or not. I don’t know how high up the priority the OmniPlan <-> OmniFocus integration is.

But then again, this is just my opinion. Flame away…

I agree with the knowledgeable @wilsonng, but I think the option to integrate the 2 apps may be beneficial in certain use cases. I also believe the omni folks wouldn’t consider it at all unless they saw value in the prospect, and knowing Omni, they will make a great job of the integration. It won’t be for all, but I am excited at the prospect of continuing the conclusion of projects between the 2 best management apps I’ve used for some years!

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I personally wish for OmniFocus and OmniPlan integration. But in the meantime, we have to look for solutions now.

Are there any other apps that feature tight integration with a project manager and a personal task manager?

Or maybe what we want is a GANTT timeline and other UI changes to OmniFocus?

Or perhaps a hybrid of OmniFocus and OmniPlan?

We had a Gantt style calendars integration in OF v2. I personally never used it and found it unhelpful, and subsequently prefer the interleaved style calendars integration in v3. That’s not to say it could not be implemented in a better way by Omni.
I think the clear separation between OF and OP is great with the possibility of easy transference and real time updating of projects, where and when desired.
Just how Omni are going to accomplish this I don’t know. But I have every confidence they will, and with style.

Just to be clear - I did not say that or anything like it. I simply asked a question.

But, to play that game, yes, I am saying that. I’m a practising project manager and I use both Omnifocus and Omniplan. I bought them for different purposes and that’s how I use them. For me, integration between the two would be a convenience, but not more. I am aware that other people would get greater value from it, and I have always supported the idea.

Your argument is that the lack of integration is a serious and embarrassing flaw and that it would be widely used. My question, which is still my question, is whether you think that there is a large population of users that would pay the extra cost of Omniplan to add it to their task management toolbox. It’s a genuine question. Since I already have both, I’m not in the group who might.

I think you just answered your own question there then man?

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This appears to now be possible:

https://www.omni-automation.com/omniplan/app-to-app.html

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Thank you, It’s now 2020.

Has this aspect of the 2019 roadmap been applied - i.e. integration between OmniFocus and OmniPlan?

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Hey Nick – do you have anymore information on the script used to send Curio items to Omnifocus? I’ve been looking around online but haven’t found it.

Info is in the Curio forums here. You might have to register to see everything but it’s free and you don’t get any spam from Zengobi

@DrJJWMac who created this is an active and helpful member here too

Please contact me either here or in the Curio group when you have problems. I made a few adjustments to the script some time ago to tweak its robustness. I imagine that I should post an update.


JJW

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An updated script to link Curio Figure <-> OF Task is now posted at this link.


JJW

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Having an option for exporting OmniPlan tasks to TaskPaper format will work for me. It will allow me to import the tasks into OF.

@kcase Maybe the OP team can consider this.

Thanks!

It is on the way per:
From the Roadmap Update

There are two big new features that remain from January’s roadmap, and both have to do with collaboration in OmniFocus: sharing linked tasks in OmniFocus, and sharing linked tasks between OmniFocus and OmniPlan. We’ve been hard at work at designing and implementing these, and as we’ve gotten deeper into this work we’ve decided to set our sights higher. Our original plan was to simply enable the sharing of individual tasks with one other person, but as we’ve thought through the various way people will want to collaborate we’ve decided it’s important to support sharing entire projects with teams right out of the gate.

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