It’s text-only and probably too basic for you, @carl123, but Taskpaper does have tags and filtering capabilities that lets you see all tagged text and copy it for use elsewhere. While having the basic outlining features, it’s amazingly simple to use. Impressing for its kind, I must say. Be aware that a new version Taskpaper 3 is under development (and may be tested for free).
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How about DEVONthink?
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How about NoteTaker by Aquaminds - came out of the same project as CPN, back in the Next days
I think this would be a great feature that has been requested before for Omnioutliner - filters.
It seems pretty clear that Omni’s not gonna give us filters, which is one reason I stopped using OO – I kept needing that aspect, and it kept shoving me back into spreadsheets.
In terms of a home for Circusponies fans, I know it’s almost anathema to suggest, but OneNote on the Mac is really pretty solid. I resisted for a long time, but for my personal usage at work, it’s great.
My use case involves distinct notebooks for client projects, and I use the sections to denote the various areas of work in the project, and then flesh out each section with notes and references that pertain to each area. Obviously you can do this more abstractly with tags and search in other tools, but the visual presentation in OneNote really works for me.
(I really, really can’t believe I’m recommending a Microsoft product, but there it is. The post-Ballmer Microsoft is way less interested in locking you into their platform, as the existence of ON for the Mac and iOS illustrates.)
Does OneNote offer filters?
Sort of. It’s not strictly an outliner, and doesn’t have columns like OO; it’s much more free form. But you can filter for tags and whatnot (i.e. to find things you mark as “to do” or whatever).
OneNote also takes close to 1GB of drive space.
I’m using OneNote at the moment - my client is a Windows shop, but I can sync OneNote to my Macs/iPad via OneDrive. Means I have an easy way of capturing notes, documents etc and syncing across devices.
I find OneNote clunky - I don’t like section tabs along the top, I don’t like the pastel colouring and I find the options for layout on a page limited (no list view of attached docs, so long titles get badly truncated, for example). It seems to me like a good example of an interface that is styled to look nice rather than work well. Also - Mac OneNote doesn’t have some of the features of Windows OneNote - example, no way to send a mail from Mac Outlook into OneNote
But - it’s better than nothing. If I were Mac-only, I’d find something else.
I’m considering OO as a replacement for CP Notebook as well.
As far as tagging goes, could you just add a new column and put your tags there? Columns are the one big feature you get with OO that CP Notebook did not have.
Create a new column of column-type “pop up list”. If you highlight the column header, you can then manage this list of tags, and each row can have its own tag, or none. You can add other kinds of columns too. I don’t think you can filter/hide rows based on tags or column content – That would be a great feature – but you can set the added column to “keep sorted” which puts all the tags in one place. Switching back to no sorting restores the original row order. Can’t really add new rows conveniently until un-order, and I don’t know how it remembers the original ordering. Hopefully you can’t loose that accidentally!
FYI: We’re planning to add filtering support to OmniOutliner later this year.
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Hi kcase. Would you care to explain what “filtering” is?
Thanks!
@kcase. Wow, that’s great news. That definitely could bring OO a CPN replacement, or even more importantly, an excellent solution for keeping running logbooks/notebooks/etc. This is an area that is really lacking in note-taking software. I can tell you that it’s maddening to people in my scientific field that with hundreds of note-taking software, there’s really nothing that works all that well for a running notebook. CPN was the best, but OO could be better.
How filtering is implemented could make a huge difference though. Will one be able see the filtered items in context? Of course it could get messy with too much context. Obviously Omni has their own ideas about how this should be implemented, but Is there any place on the forums where a discussion that includes users views’ would be appropriate?
onenote is actually pretty good. Not as good as the windows version, but not too bad. But it’s still not the fantastic notebook solution that OO could be with properly implemented filtering.
+1 +1 +1. Heck, +100!!!
+1 +1 +1. Heck, +100!!!
But I repeat myself…
[quote=“kcase, post:20, topic:22266”]
We’re planning to add filtering support to OmniOutliner later this year.
[/quote]Is there understanding how far is this feature in the OO roadmap from the present moment? (not ETA, but how many features should come before the OO team starts working on filtering?)
We’ve already started work on filtering, and that work is coming along quite well.
However, I don’t expect it to ship before the next round of operating system updates for Mac and iOS—which I expect we’ll need to start working on immediately following WWDC, which is just a few weeks away. (If Apple follows their recent pattern, we can expect to see iOS 10 ship to customers in September, and OS X 10.12 in October.)
Does it mean that October is the earliest date to see filtering in the OO staging versions?
I’ll be able to answer that question better in a few weeks: it really depends on how destabilizing the new operating system updates turn out to be.
As WWDC is just finished now, is it still to early to ask for updates on this?
