iOS App redesign?


#22

I’ve moved to Things because the iPad experience was horrible.


#23

I’ve been juggling between tick tick, Todoist, things 3 and OmniFocus and finally settling on things 3. Support for OmniFocus is outstanding but I’m way more productive with a more straightforward app that works fast and seamlessly. I don’t like tapping on a lot of icons to get to places and OmniFocus really needs to show all folders and projects on the main page without needing to create a perspective for them. I see everything I need to see when I load up things and everything just feels so intuitive which makes it such a joy to use. OmniFocus 2 gave me a headache when I tried to use it and 3 is better but still annoying and tedious to use IMO.


#24

I still like my iPad home screen showing perspectives. But I’d like to tap on a perspective in home screen and then the left sidebar switches to show a Projects list or a Tags list. That’s what I’m able to do on my Mac but unable to do it on my iPad.

Hopefully the much discussed UI update for 2019 will remedy this.


#25

I share the frustration on iOS and hope everyone has been mailing the support team. In terms of UI/UX, Things 3 is miles ahead (not so much regarding features). Creating tasks and organising actions in OF3 takes too much time and effort, it hardly earns the term ‘flow’ in workflow.


#26

5 posts were split to a new topic: Omni and Marzipan


Omni and Marzipan
#30

The problem is that we don’t give amnesia a chance – all the subtle processes of selective neural pruning that go on at night are wasted in the morning by the mindlessly obdurate memory of the software.

Perhaps it’s analogous to the problem identified in the Edward Luttwak article on war (https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/1999-07-01/give-war-chance) – that imposed ceasefires are very well intentioned, but also have the unintended side-effect of allowing both sides to recover and rearm before the fire has really burned out, and when the cease-fire breaks down, the war is thereby intensified and prolonged.

Similarly, imposed reminders of things that would naturally have been forgotten actually make it much harder to cope with long-run overload.

A radical redesign might well look not unlike a pencil and paper bullet journal, but even that won’t function properly if we’re artificially prevented from forgetting, fail to lose the journal occasionally, or don’t gradually build the muscle-tone required to simply draw a line through a lot of things.

Give forgetfulness a chance – it’s a delicate and sophisticated natural system.


#31

The problem is that we don’t give amnesia a chance – all the subtle processes of selective neural pruning that go on at night are wasted in the morning by the mindlessly obdurate memory of the software.

I wholeheardetly agree with you on this. This is what I personally use the Review section for: it’s an opportunity to go through every open loop I have and close it by either doing something, or by just deleting it. I still prefer putting everything in OF, and be reminded about it every now and then during the review phase, than keep everything inside my brain, with the risk that stuff pops up randomly when I cannot act on it (which is typicaly when things do pop up in your brain).

The bigger problem with the current design is that, I feel, it makes it difficult to do things that you have to do. Forgetfulness is a great natural way to get rid of stuff you might want to do, but which is not really fundamental. But when you have items that you must do, it’s currently a bit too easy to end up inside the big blog of undoability I mentioned in my comment above.


#32

(Indeed – software can do many interesting things, but it’s not a route out from the constraints and tensions embedded in human relationships like employment).


#34

Still waiting for ability to hide tags on iOS. Just too much clutter.


#35

You might consider signing up for the 3.3 TestFlight. It adds a tag hiding option:
https://www.omnigroup.com/test/omnifocus-dropped-actions


#36

Dude. You just made my day.


#37

Oh, mine, too!

EDIT: I thought you meant excluding tags from being included in custom perspectives, not just not showing them. Oh, well.


#39

I advise it. It’s very good!


#40

Glad I found this thread — it’s good to know that I’m far from the only one who finds the current state of iOS OmniFocus to be awful in terms of UX. Since the advent of the latest generation of iPad Pro, I’ve been using that device significantly more than my laptop, especially when it comes to single-focus efforts like, say, task management. The iPad version of OF is so bad for this that I find myself entirely skipping my daily review regularly, to the point that I had to create a Streaks task just for tracking whether I’ve updated my OF daily (and I often don’t any more).

The primary difference between good software and bad software is very rarely in the feature set, it’s in how accessible and usable those features are. On my iPhone, I’m finding myself using a Shortcuts widget to navigate within OF because the native options for moving between perspectives and views is so bad.


#41

I agree totally. I like OF3 on iOS much much better than on Mac.


#42

Things 3 on iPad has the best keyboard shortcuts of any iPad app out there.